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Michael Thomas
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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Thomas   Click Here to Email Michael Thomas     Edit/Delete Message


Connection at slotted hole intended to mount panel. Acceptable?


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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Arnold   Click Here to Email John Arnold     Edit/Delete Message


If that is supposed to be the panel bond, I vote no, because the screw is likely not making good contact with the enclosure.

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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Moreira   Click Here to Email Tim Moreira     Edit/Delete Message


I say no. That is not the approved bonding bar/clamp for the panel bond.

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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Arnold   Click Here to Email John Arnold     Edit/Delete Message


Tim is righter than I am. Even if the screw is making good contact it wouldn't be right because that ain't what the slotted hole is there for.

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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Moreira   Click Here to Email Tim Moreira     Edit/Delete Message


That's kinda like the metal boxes that have all those little holes all over them that are used to mount the box, and then there's that one little raised threaded hole which is for the attachment of that little green screw.

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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Thomas   Click Here to Email Michael Thomas     Edit/Delete Message


Thanks.

No two of those panels are bonded to the same point internally, BTW.

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home inspection posted March 25, 2007 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry Peck   Click Here to Email Jerry Peck     Edit/Delete Message


No, it is not.

See the way that is recessed back toward the wall? The ones made for grounding and bonding terminals are bumped out from the back to the inside of the panel.

They are made to accept short threaded screws which, when all the way, are still not long enough to touch the wall - that's the reason for the hump they are in. The feet go back 1/4", the hump for the ground terminal bars come in 1/4", that leaves room for a 1/2" long screw (of the proper type too).

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home inspection posted March 26, 2007 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Steinke   Click Here to Email John Steinke     Edit/Delete Message


Sure looks like a sheet metal screw, possibly going into the framing.

The use of sheet metal screws for this purpose is specifically not allowed by the NEC.

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home inspection posted March 26, 2007 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dick whitfield     Edit/Delete Message


In my area....grouding connections to any piece of sheet metal has to be either a tapped hole or a nut and bolt connection.

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